Sunday, September 24, 2006

The Eisman Cometh

The only peoples' candidate for governor, a man who wants to make a HUGE Difference for Wisconsin while the establishment candidates fight over which one is less corrupt, is coming to UW Oshkosh on Wednesday evening. That's right, Green Party candidate Nelson Eisman will be on campus so that all members of the Oshkosh community can hear for themselves what he is saying that is so threatening to the Doyle/Green camps that they have done all they can to prevent him participating in debates.

Nelson Eisman will speak at the UW Oshkosh Reeve Memorial Union, Room 227C, from 8:30 - 9:30 p.m. on Wednesday, September 27. Admission is free and open to the public.


5 comments:

Questioning said...

While Eisman may be "the people's" candidate he wouldn't have a prayer of getting any of his initiatives passed in the legislature so what is the point?

Ron said...

"...he wouldn't have a prayer of getting any of his initiatives passed..."

This is pure conjecture. When Jesse Ventura was elected Governor of Minnesota the world didn't stop spinning and legislation didn't stop getting passed. Same goes for Angus King, Independent, elected Governor in Maine (1995-2003).

What this creates is a situation when parties and officials negotiate with each other - like when Doyle and the Republican legislature cooperated to strip local communities (Madison) autonomy to raise local minimum wage in exchange for a more modest state wide minimum wage increase.

Both Democrats and Republicans have called in one way or another many of Eisman's issues - renewable energy, state wide health care (Feingold is for it...), etc.

It is not inconceivable for Greens, Democrats and Republicans to work cooperatively for the betterment of Wisconsin.

Questioning said...

You really believe that the legislature will install a progressive income tax -- high enough to eliminate the property tax? I mean I am all for the idea but I am a realist and it just won't happen. Tell me something Jesse Ventura got passed that was that radical?

Someone complained that Doyle didn't deliver on his promises, do you honestly believe if by some miracle Eisman got elected the legislature would just "fall in line"? That would be so nice but I just don't live in that fantasy land.

I for one just don't believe we would be in the same position if Green or Doyle were governor. The thought of Green as governor with republicans controlling both the assembly and the senate terrifys me. You think local governments have it bad now, think what it will be like when NOTHING they propose is vetoed? The tax freeze will be a slam dunk if Green is governor and the legislature remains republican.

Ron said...

I understand your argument for supporting Doyle because Mark Green is scary. No question about it Mark Green could devastate Wisconsin.

But that clearly is your reason for not supporting Eisman, not because his positions are unrealistic. Sure, illiminating the property tax is a tough sell - although I would think that the Rich would like that and do the math inregards to what was worse - existing property tax vs. progressive tax system. Progress on renewable energy as an economic growth tool - which Doyle and Green are both claiming to be very strong on and in favor of - is reasonable and acceptable to all three parties, right?

I just think it is sufficient to say "I am afraid of Mark Green" as the reason you support Doyle, rather than try to justify it by arguing that Eisman would be an ineffective Governor.

Questioning said...

Fear of Mark Green is NOT the only reason I am supporting Doyle. While I might like Eisman's ideas I've seen enough of politics in general and Wisconsin politics in particular to know that Eisman would NOT be able to eliminate the property tax by increasing the income tax on wealthy Wisconsinites enough to cover ALL property taxes on 1st homes and lessen the income tax burden on the lower and middle classes. Pie in the sky ideas are nice to have but that isn't how politics works, you need a majority of those voting in the legislature to agree with you, in fact I'd be surprised if he could even find a legislator to sponsor such a bill there is just no way a majority of legislators would vote for it.

Do I think Doyle is the perfect candidate? No! Is there such a thing? I don't believe so, but I plan to give my vote to the candidate that has a pretty good chance of accomplishing some of the things he has proposed and stopping with his veto pen some of the most outlandish things the republican's propose. I just don't want to throw away my vote on a fantasy.